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	<title>Comments on: Henderson on Sh&#8212;uh, Manures</title>
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		<title>By: CP Knerr</title>
		<link>http://selfmadefarmer.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/henderson-on-sh-uh-manures/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>CP Knerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just use horse manure because it's the only thing I have a lot of access too.  The area in which I live has a lot of 7-20 acre farms with 2-8 horses on them.  There are also a few larger breeding farms for standardbred race horses where I'm sure I could get a lot of manure, if I had the means to haul it.  Their current management strategy is to wait for the Genesee River to thaw in spring then pay the farm workers to dump the manure in the river so it washes into Lake Ontario.

I've also used composted goat and rabbit manure.  

Until this year I did not have cows or pigs overwinter so did not have a good supply.  Now I have a nice pile of both flavors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just use horse manure because it&#8217;s the only thing I have a lot of access too.  The area in which I live has a lot of 7-20 acre farms with 2-8 horses on them.  There are also a few larger breeding farms for standardbred race horses where I&#8217;m sure I could get a lot of manure, if I had the means to haul it.  Their current management strategy is to wait for the Genesee River to thaw in spring then pay the farm workers to dump the manure in the river so it washes into Lake Ontario.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also used composted goat and rabbit manure.  </p>
<p>Until this year I did not have cows or pigs overwinter so did not have a good supply.  Now I have a nice pile of both flavors!</p>
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		<title>By: A learning farmer</title>
		<link>http://selfmadefarmer.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/henderson-on-sh-uh-manures/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>A learning farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I'm pretty familiar with manures--pigs, horses, donkeys, chicken, ducks, goats, sheep, etc. I worked primarily with livestock for the first year as a farm hand (cleaning, shoveling, spreading). Do you find that horse manure is more conducive to soil health than other manures? Or do you use it because it's convenient?

Good tip about lazy pigs. I did read "You Can Farm" but I don't remember him specifying the number of pigs he used. I do remember reading how he used pigs to turn bedding. That and how the chickens follow the cattle on pasture, eating the maggots from the cow pies. Excellent examples of how to get animals to do the work for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;m pretty familiar with manures&#8211;pigs, horses, donkeys, chicken, ducks, goats, sheep, etc. I worked primarily with livestock for the first year as a farm hand (cleaning, shoveling, spreading). Do you find that horse manure is more conducive to soil health than other manures? Or do you use it because it&#8217;s convenient?</p>
<p>Good tip about lazy pigs. I did read &#8220;You Can Farm&#8221; but I don&#8217;t remember him specifying the number of pigs he used. I do remember reading how he used pigs to turn bedding. That and how the chickens follow the cattle on pasture, eating the maggots from the cow pies. Excellent examples of how to get animals to do the work for you.</p>
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		<title>By: CP Knerr</title>
		<link>http://selfmadefarmer.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/henderson-on-sh-uh-manures/#comment-49</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the different types of manure, I'm not sure if you've seen these different types first hand or not.

Horse manure has a lot of intact grass fibers left in it after it passes through the horse.  Cow manure is a lot more digested with a lot more wet matter.  Pig manure is also similar to cow but maybe a little bit more digested.  When the hogs are out on pasture, there will be some grass or clover stems in the manure if they are on grass and clover.  If they are in the turnips and forage rape they will not have as much fiber in the manure.

One horse will produce ~9 tons of manure/year if I remember correctly.  The straw that comes off my field goes to a girl with 8 horses, then is returned to me.  I think they bring me 2000-2500 pounds of manure (full pickup truck with manure piled up way over the cab) and straw bedding per week which is deposited on my property in 5-6' high windrows.  It takes it a couple of years to break down unless I turn it.

Regarding the number of pigs, if you read Joel Salatin's "You Can Farm" or "Salad Bar Beef" he uses only 2 pigs to turn the cow manure, as if you add more hogs, the lazier ones will wait for the more ambitious ones to start to dig.  He also spreads corn in the cow bedding so the pigs have something to root for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the different types of manure, I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve seen these different types first hand or not.</p>
<p>Horse manure has a lot of intact grass fibers left in it after it passes through the horse.  Cow manure is a lot more digested with a lot more wet matter.  Pig manure is also similar to cow but maybe a little bit more digested.  When the hogs are out on pasture, there will be some grass or clover stems in the manure if they are on grass and clover.  If they are in the turnips and forage rape they will not have as much fiber in the manure.</p>
<p>One horse will produce ~9 tons of manure/year if I remember correctly.  The straw that comes off my field goes to a girl with 8 horses, then is returned to me.  I think they bring me 2000-2500 pounds of manure (full pickup truck with manure piled up way over the cab) and straw bedding per week which is deposited on my property in 5-6&#8242; high windrows.  It takes it a couple of years to break down unless I turn it.</p>
<p>Regarding the number of pigs, if you read Joel Salatin&#8217;s &#8220;You Can Farm&#8221; or &#8220;Salad Bar Beef&#8221; he uses only 2 pigs to turn the cow manure, as if you add more hogs, the lazier ones will wait for the more ambitious ones to start to dig.  He also spreads corn in the cow bedding so the pigs have something to root for.</p>
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		<title>By: A learning farmer</title>
		<link>http://selfmadefarmer.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/henderson-on-sh-uh-manures/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>A learning farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent Steve a note and he responded promptly--the book is actually in the "homesteading" section, so I've updated my links accordingly. Sorry for the confusion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent Steve a note and he responded promptly&#8211;the book is actually in the &#8220;homesteading&#8221; section, so I&#8217;ve updated my links accordingly. Sorry for the confusion!</p>
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		<title>By: A learning farmer</title>
		<link>http://selfmadefarmer.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/henderson-on-sh-uh-manures/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>A learning farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, sorry it's not a direct link. Since Steve's library is based on Australian copyright law, it's important to go through the portal which clarifies how he's able to provide these books for free--basically, copyrights that have expired and books that are no longer in print. I wouldn't want to send people straight through to the articles and bypass the legal mumbo jumbo, since I'm assuming it's part of what protects his site legally. 

As I'm going through Steve's list now, though, I can't seem to find this book listed. How odd. But it IS accessible through Google. Maybe I'll drop him a line about it. Thanks for the heads up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sorry it&#8217;s not a direct link. Since Steve&#8217;s library is based on Australian copyright law, it&#8217;s important to go through the portal which clarifies how he&#8217;s able to provide these books for free&#8211;basically, copyrights that have expired and books that are no longer in print. I wouldn&#8217;t want to send people straight through to the articles and bypass the legal mumbo jumbo, since I&#8217;m assuming it&#8217;s part of what protects his site legally. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;m going through Steve&#8217;s list now, though, I can&#8217;t seem to find this book listed. How odd. But it IS accessible through Google. Maybe I&#8217;ll drop him a line about it. Thanks for the heads up!</p>
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		<title>By: Sonya</title>
		<link>http://selfmadefarmer.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/henderson-on-sh-uh-manures/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind. I found it by doing a google search. Love your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind. I found it by doing a google search. Love your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonya</title>
		<link>http://selfmadefarmer.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/henderson-on-sh-uh-manures/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't seem to find the book Gardening for Profit at the Soil and Library site. I searched by name and author.  Can you tell me how to find it? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t seem to find the book Gardening for Profit at the Soil and Library site. I searched by name and author.  Can you tell me how to find it? Thanks.</p>
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